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	<title>Comments for PJ&#039;s EDC blog</title>
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		<title>Comment on Final Assignment Topic Proposal &#8211; Tracking the Invisible Online Learner by sbayne</title>
		<link>https://edc15.education.ed.ac.uk/pfameli/2015/03/29/final-assignment-topic-proposal-tracking-the-invisible-online-learner/#comment-2237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sbayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the sound of where you&#039;re going with this PJ. Is it your intention to relate the idea of &#039;invisibility&#039; to digital surveillance cultures, and the way in which availability of data leads us to expect and sometimes seek a greater visibility than in &#039;pre digital&#039; contexts? For example, if elements of learning take place off the screen, why do we &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to think in terms of &#039;evalutating&#039; them? Are we seeing a rising expectation in education that such learning &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; be tracked and &#039;rendered visible&#039; in some way?

The following readings might help?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17439884.2014.921628#.VRm8xo7F8Wk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Data entry: towards the critical study of digital data and education, Neil Selywn&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://org.sagepub.com/content/early/2014/02/26/1350508414522315.abstract&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The politics of transparency and the calibration of knowledge in the digital age, Hans Krause Hansen &lt;/a&gt;

On the format, I like the idea of video - if you wanted to extend on this to say more about the theory of your work, or to indicate references and citations, you could write a short textual &#039;rationale&#039;  which might give you more scope to be experimental in the video itself.

I&#039;m not quite clear how the manifesto element is going to brought in here (would it relate to the form of the piece in some way?) so would like to hear more about this at some point.

Great to see the thoughts coming together!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the sound of where you&#8217;re going with this PJ. Is it your intention to relate the idea of &#8216;invisibility&#8217; to digital surveillance cultures, and the way in which availability of data leads us to expect and sometimes seek a greater visibility than in &#8216;pre digital&#8217; contexts? For example, if elements of learning take place off the screen, why do we <i>need</i> to think in terms of &#8216;evalutating&#8217; them? Are we seeing a rising expectation in education that such learning <i>might</i> be tracked and &#8216;rendered visible&#8217; in some way?</p>
<p>The following readings might help?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17439884.2014.921628#.VRm8xo7F8Wk" rel="nofollow">Data entry: towards the critical study of digital data and education, Neil Selywn</a></p>
<p><a href="http://org.sagepub.com/content/early/2014/02/26/1350508414522315.abstract" rel="nofollow">The politics of transparency and the calibration of knowledge in the digital age, Hans Krause Hansen </a></p>
<p>On the format, I like the idea of video &#8211; if you wanted to extend on this to say more about the theory of your work, or to indicate references and citations, you could write a short textual &#8216;rationale&#8217;  which might give you more scope to be experimental in the video itself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite clear how the manifesto element is going to brought in here (would it relate to the form of the piece in some way?) so would like to hear more about this at some point.</p>
<p>Great to see the thoughts coming together!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comments on PJ&#8217;s Quill Connect by QuillConnect vs. Twitter Discovery: Duelling algorithms &#124; Katherine&#039;s EDC blog</title>
		<link>https://edc15.education.ed.ac.uk/pfameli/2015/03/08/comments-on-pjs-quill-connect/#comment-1084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[QuillConnect vs. Twitter Discovery: Duelling algorithms &#124; Katherine&#039;s EDC blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2015 05:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] PJ&#8217;s blog, however, inspired me to go back and try [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] PJ&#8217;s blog, however, inspired me to go back and try [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comments on PJ&#8217;s Quill Connect by PJ Fameli</title>
		<link>https://edc15.education.ed.ac.uk/pfameli/2015/03/08/comments-on-pjs-quill-connect/#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PJ Fameli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katherine, I suggest taking Quill Connect with a &#039;grain of salt.&#039; While I was enthusiastic last week, I think I feel into proverbial &#039;trap&#039; of &#039;instant gratification&#039; with data-to-text tools. I tweeted extraordinarily this past week for out Twitter Tutorial, over 30 more tweets than usual, but my Quill Connect still reports me averaging at about 2 per week, so I am more skeptical and cynical this week about Quill Connect. I try to take a look at your Discovery timeline. Cheers, PJ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katherine, I suggest taking Quill Connect with a &#8216;grain of salt.&#8217; While I was enthusiastic last week, I think I feel into proverbial &#8216;trap&#8217; of &#8216;instant gratification&#8217; with data-to-text tools. I tweeted extraordinarily this past week for out Twitter Tutorial, over 30 more tweets than usual, but my Quill Connect still reports me averaging at about 2 per week, so I am more skeptical and cynical this week about Quill Connect. I try to take a look at your Discovery timeline. Cheers, PJ</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comments on PJ&#8217;s Quill Connect by Katherine</title>
		<link>https://edc15.education.ed.ac.uk/pfameli/2015/03/08/comments-on-pjs-quill-connect/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2015 04:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi PJ, this is interesting. I found my QuillConnect report much less informative than my Discovery timeline analysis, so I didn&#039;t do much with it. However, I have been inspired by your post to go back and reflect on the differences!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PJ, this is interesting. I found my QuillConnect report much less informative than my Discovery timeline analysis, so I didn&#8217;t do much with it. However, I have been inspired by your post to go back and reflect on the differences!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comments on PJ&#8217;s Quill Connect by PJ Fameli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PJ Fameli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2015 13:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremy, thanks for generous and penetrating feedback. I need to take a look at Ed&#039;s Tweet and explore data-to-text, then I&#039;ll come back in a day or so and blog about it. this might be an interesting final assignment topic. 
Cheers, PJ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, thanks for generous and penetrating feedback. I need to take a look at Ed&#8217;s Tweet and explore data-to-text, then I&#8217;ll come back in a day or so and blog about it. this might be an interesting final assignment topic.<br />
Cheers, PJ</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comments on PJ&#8217;s Quill Connect by Jeremy Knox</title>
		<link>https://edc15.education.ed.ac.uk/pfameli/2015/03/08/comments-on-pjs-quill-connect/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Knox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2015 10:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a super description of your explorations with QuillConnect PJ, and some great reflection on how a service like this might guide our future social media activity.

You&#039;ve focussed on the statistical measures here, and I wondered if you could say a little more about what you think the implications of this might be. I know that you&#039;ve stated which kinds of things you are comfortable with, but I&#039;m wondering more about the general premise that we compare ourselves to &#039;average use&#039;. What does that really mean for a service like Twitter? How has this organisation decided on those particular averages, and what understandings of social media are driving that? It seems to me that &#039;tweeting 2 times a week&#039; is more about a kind of corporate social media strategy, than considering the educative value of reading and/or posting to Twitter.  So the broader question here is, who and what are constructing the &#039;normal&#039; Twitter user, and what might that mean for educational use of the service?

Your focus on the stats is also interesting, as one of the core offerings of QuillConnect is the data-to-text computation. This is a burgeoning area of algorithmic web development, where articles are &#039;written&#039; automatically from lots of different kinds of web data. (I was at a data-to-text event earlier this week in Edinburgh http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/InteractionLab/d2t/). Ed shared this Tweet recently which is typical of this data-to-text field, an article &#039;written&#039; from stock market data:

&lt;blockquote class=&quot;twitter-tweet&quot; data-partner=&quot;tweetdeck&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here are articles written by algorithms -- amazing:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://t.co/oPaTaDSyz7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://t.co/oPaTaDSyz7&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/hashtag/mscedc?src=hash&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;#mscedc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#8212; Ed Guzman (@emberday) &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/emberday/status/575365290860638208&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;March 10, 2015&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;script async src=&quot;//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js&quot; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;&gt;&lt;/script&gt;

Other big developments include sports articles written from various sources of data like sports stats and social media comments.

So, what are the issues around writing text about your Twitter activity? Does that make it more believable? Some of this work is motivated by the idea that stats are simply to &#039;dry&#039;, and that people prefer written accounts of activity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a super description of your explorations with QuillConnect PJ, and some great reflection on how a service like this might guide our future social media activity.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve focussed on the statistical measures here, and I wondered if you could say a little more about what you think the implications of this might be. I know that you&#8217;ve stated which kinds of things you are comfortable with, but I&#8217;m wondering more about the general premise that we compare ourselves to &#8216;average use&#8217;. What does that really mean for a service like Twitter? How has this organisation decided on those particular averages, and what understandings of social media are driving that? It seems to me that &#8216;tweeting 2 times a week&#8217; is more about a kind of corporate social media strategy, than considering the educative value of reading and/or posting to Twitter.  So the broader question here is, who and what are constructing the &#8216;normal&#8217; Twitter user, and what might that mean for educational use of the service?</p>
<p>Your focus on the stats is also interesting, as one of the core offerings of QuillConnect is the data-to-text computation. This is a burgeoning area of algorithmic web development, where articles are &#8216;written&#8217; automatically from lots of different kinds of web data. (I was at a data-to-text event earlier this week in Edinburgh <a href="http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/InteractionLab/d2t/" rel="nofollow">http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/InteractionLab/d2t/</a>). Ed shared this Tweet recently which is typical of this data-to-text field, an article &#8216;written&#8217; from stock market data:</p>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Here are articles written by algorithms &#8212; amazing:  <a href="http://t.co/oPaTaDSyz7" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/oPaTaDSyz7</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mscedc?src=hash" rel="nofollow">#mscedc</a></p>
<p>&mdash; Ed Guzman (@emberday) <a href="https://twitter.com/emberday/status/575365290860638208" rel="nofollow">March 10, 2015</a></p></blockquote>
<p><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script></p>
<p>Other big developments include sports articles written from various sources of data like sports stats and social media comments.</p>
<p>So, what are the issues around writing text about your Twitter activity? Does that make it more believable? Some of this work is motivated by the idea that stats are simply to &#8216;dry&#8217;, and that people prefer written accounts of activity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comments on PJ&#8217;s Quill Connect by Week 9: learning analytics and calculating academics &#124; MSc in Digital Education at the University of Edinburgh</title>
		<link>https://edc15.education.ed.ac.uk/pfameli/2015/03/08/comments-on-pjs-quill-connect/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Week 9: learning analytics and calculating academics &#124; MSc in Digital Education at the University of Edinburgh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2015 10:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] are useful to us, as long as we know (or think we know) how to ‘work’ them. For example, PJ’s account acknowledges that he might take some useful guidance on managing his Twitter activity from [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] are useful to us, as long as we know (or think we know) how to ‘work’ them. For example, PJ’s account acknowledges that he might take some useful guidance on managing his Twitter activity from [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boston Dynamics shows off new robot dog, dooms us all by kicking it http://t.co/vqQgBBfCDH via @thenextweb @paulfameli #mscedc by sbayne</title>
		<link>https://edc15.education.ed.ac.uk/pfameli/2015/02/12/boston-dynamics-shows-off-new-robot-dog-dooms-us-all-by-kicking-it-httpt-covqqgbbfcdh-via-thenextweb-paulfameli-mscedc-2/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sbayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2015 09:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is something a little terrifying about those dogs PJ - and the idea that they might come back for vengeance feels not entirely unbelievable.

It&#039;d be worth checking over the comments in your Wordpress dashboard PJ, and marking the ones that aren&#039;t legitimate as spam - I think once you&#039;ve approved a comment from a spammer, they can then post without moderation, so you might want to just check this out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something a little terrifying about those dogs PJ &#8211; and the idea that they might come back for vengeance feels not entirely unbelievable.</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be worth checking over the comments in your WordPress dashboard PJ, and marking the ones that aren&#8217;t legitimate as spam &#8211; I think once you&#8217;ve approved a comment from a spammer, they can then post without moderation, so you might want to just check this out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ScanFilmTV MOOC Micro Ethnography V 2: http://t.co/xc2fZxsf2I via @YouTube @paulfameli #mscedc attempt to correct slide transition timings by PJ Fameli</title>
		<link>https://edc15.education.ed.ac.uk/pfameli/2015/02/28/scanfilmtv-mooc-micro-ethnography-v-2-httpt-coxc2fzxsf2i-via-youtube-paulfameli-mscedc-attempt-to-correct-slide-transition-timings/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PJ Fameli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miles, thanks for kind comments. It seems that we have common interests in film and TV culture. I would like to share more on interest in Dogme 95 after EDC. Would like hear more about your previous work. I am searching to see if there are any Dogme &#039;95 retrospectives (20 years later). My subject ScanFilmTV is now entering final Week 5 and the top discussion forum rankings rankings are relatively intact from Week 1, perhaps indicating that &#039;early engagers&#039; with previous expertise sustain their posting habits over duration of MOOC. Cheers, PJ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miles, thanks for kind comments. It seems that we have common interests in film and TV culture. I would like to share more on interest in Dogme 95 after EDC. Would like hear more about your previous work. I am searching to see if there are any Dogme &#8217;95 retrospectives (20 years later). My subject ScanFilmTV is now entering final Week 5 and the top discussion forum rankings rankings are relatively intact from Week 1, perhaps indicating that &#8216;early engagers&#8217; with previous expertise sustain their posting habits over duration of MOOC. Cheers, PJ</p>
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		<title>Comment on ScanFilmTV MOOC Micro Ethnography V 2: http://t.co/xc2fZxsf2I via @YouTube @paulfameli #mscedc attempt to correct slide transition timings by sbayne</title>
		<link>https://edc15.education.ed.ac.uk/pfameli/2015/02/28/scanfilmtv-mooc-micro-ethnography-v-2-httpt-coxc2fzxsf2i-via-youtube-paulfameli-mscedc-attempt-to-correct-slide-transition-timings/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sbayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PJ that&#039;s a really nice piece of reflection on your position and role as observer-participant: it sounds to me as though you surfaced and negotiated these tensions about as effectively as you could have in a task of this size. Many thanks for the clarification.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PJ that&#8217;s a really nice piece of reflection on your position and role as observer-participant: it sounds to me as though you surfaced and negotiated these tensions about as effectively as you could have in a task of this size. Many thanks for the clarification.</p>
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